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Metal Gear Solid 4 \ It's interesting that MGS4 uses up a 50GB BD-R and still doesn't have PCM/DTS-Master HD sound

Gaetano
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46.6GB of game data and it still uses Dolby Digital. I would have even preferred DTS Surround. It's a shame the game doesn't have PCM or DTS-Master HD audio, if any game would benefit from it, MGS4 is the best candidate. That begs the question, if the game were to use PCM sound, how much space would it require then! Obviously there is an insane amount of dialogue in the game. So I can see why PCM was not an option. Thing is, it is reported that only 2 of the cut scenes in MGS4 are not real time, and are pre-rendered (end of Act 3 and one at the very end of the game). If that's true, then again, I'm even more baffled at what took up all the space.

What are your thoughts? And are we going to see less and less PS3 games with PCM/DTS-Master HD? If yes, it makes me one sad panda.
17/06/2008
Melbourne
reags
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Honestly, the game was so in depth and captivating on so many levels that I probably wouldn't have known the difference if it were in DD or DTS. Eitherway it doesn't detract a single bit from the game.
17/06/2008
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SpaceSteve
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reags said: Honestly, the game was so in depth and captivating on so many levels that I probably wouldn't have known the difference if it were in DD or DTS. Eitherway it doesn't detract a single bit from the game.


Exactly, some people get to obsesive with sound and graphics. DTS dd 5.1 7.1 who cares so long as sounds come out of each speaker. You would need an occiliscope to tell the difference anyway. I thinsk the reason is that most amps play dolby digital, but not all can play dts. Also Dts takes up way more room.
17/06/2008
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Jeffie
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why would dts be better that dd? when you say less and less games with hd audio, what games are you referring to that currently have it?

unless the game is 2-3 hours long, dont expect any hd audio.

also, is there any point in the game where you go, the sound sounds really compressed?? i highly doubt it

ps its DTS HDMA and DD True HD
17/06/2008
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DiscoMark
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I heard what took up all the space on the disc was the code needed for zooming in with the directional pad during cut-scenes. Apparently it took them like 4 full time programmers and like nearly half of the blu-ray disc to add that important feature in.
17/06/2008
Gold Coast
monkychees
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they have to repeat the data over the disc coz the read speeds are too slow so out of that 46.6 GB not all of it is 'new' data
17/06/2008
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Winnie
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DiscoMark said: I heard what took up all the space on the disc was the code needed for zooming in with the directional pad during cut-scenes. Apparently it took them like 4 full time programmers and like nearly half of the blu-ray disc to add that important feature in.



No way. The cutscenes are made in realtime, so it wouldn't be difficult at all to make it zoom. Well, probably not so important that it'd take up half a BD.
17/06/2008
Melbourne
longarms
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Winnie said:


DiscoMark said: I heard what took up all the space on the disc was the code needed for zooming in with the directional pad during cut-scenes. Apparently it took them like 4 full time programmers and like nearly half of the blu-ray disc to add that important feature in.


No way. The cutscenes are made in realtime, so it wouldn't be difficult at all to make it zoom. Well, probably not so important that it'd take up half a BD.

that zoom feature dosnt take up any room on the disc at all. Well at least only the room that the code which makes it run takes up wich isnt much much at all.
17/06/2008
Central Coast (NSW)
Gaetano
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Well this thread went right over my head... lol
17/06/2008
Melbourne
Shadowblade
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Urhmmm... you're all overanalyzing... stop talking on here and go play it!

I honestly am quite content with dolby... it does the job, it's an extremely impressive game and I honestly don't care if the cutscenes/zooming/audio take up XX% of the disc... they are all good!
17/06/2008
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longarms
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Shadowblade said:Urhmmm... you're all overanalyzing... stop talking on here and go play it!

I honestly am quite content with dolby... it does the job, it's an extremely impressive game and I honestly don't care if the cutscenes/zooming/audio take up XX% of the disc... they are all good!



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17/06/2008
Central Coast (NSW)
snickersma
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Yep - and with retail prices for TrueHD and DTS-HD (maybe not DTS-MA) getting sub $900 - for a Yamaha at least - its getting more and more attractive. Pity MGS4 doesnt use it - but damn the sound is good anyway LOL!
17/06/2008
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