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Playstation 3 Software & Firmware \ Sex In Videogames? Your Thoughts

Krakenia
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Krakenia says:
Excellent informative discussions! Good to see the thread being treated with respect, keep the conversation flowing. Try to make your answers nice and lenghty instead of the dull 5 year old type sh!t like *sex sells, Lock teh thread* that gets on my nerves...
19/05/2008
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Tanoman
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Tanoman says:

Krakenfood said:sh!t like *sex sells, Lock teh thread* that gets on my nerves...



why? thats true
19/05/2008
Syd
Krakenia
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Krakenia says:

Tanoman said: Krakenfood said: Excellent informative discussions! Good to see the thread being treated with respect, keep the conversation flowing. Try to make your answers nice and lenghty instead of the dull 5 year old type sh!t like *sex sells, Lock teh thread* that gets on my nerves...

why? thats true

There HAD to be one! Give me your views on this subject....

Yes it is true....but its not enough....longer please...
19/05/2008
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Tanoman
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Tanoman says:

Krakenfood said: Tanoman said: Krakenfood said: Excellent informative discussions! Good to see the thread being treated with respect, keep the conversation flowing. Try to make your answers nice and lenghty instead of the dull 5 year old type sh!t like *sex sells, Lock teh thread* that gets on my nerves...

why? thats true...Nice one ****tard! There HAD to be one!




hmmm.. resorting to name calling.. now who's the 5 yr old eh?
19/05/2008
Syd
Krakenia
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Krakenia says:
Lol, no you dont Tanoman...i say short annoying answers are abit annoying, so what do you do? Give me a short simple answer...explain the answer...sorry about the name calling, not intended.
19/05/2008
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wutang01
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wutang01 says:
I dunno. This always brings up the debate about "if violence, blood and gore is ok in video games ... why can't sex? It's a natural thing and part of life ... but violence isn't and shouldn't."

As a gamer, I don't really mind. But I can see the problem for parents who have kids. I guess the simplest solution would be to not get your kids touching those kinds of games.

Doesn't the PS3 have parental control anyway? Like, isn't GTA4 rated Level 9 or something ...
19/05/2008
Brisbane
Krakenia
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Krakenia says:
Whats worse? A virtual person getting their head kicked in...or a virtual sex scene? Explain your answer Im right into this kind of thing
19/05/2008
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Tanoman
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Tanoman says:

Krakenfood said: Lol, no you dont Tanoman...i say short annoying answers are abit annoying, so what do you do? Give me a short simple answer...explain the answer...sorry about the name calling, not intended.



apology accepted.

just think to yourself if you had a 10 yr old kid would u rather them shoot at stuff.. or watch characters have sex. There is your answer!
19/05/2008
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Krakenia
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Krakenia says:

Tanoman said: Krakenfood said: Lol, no you dont Tanoman...i say short annoying answers are abit annoying, so what do you do? Give me a short simple answer...explain the answer...sorry about the name calling, not intended.

apology accepted.

just think to yourself if you had a 10 yr old kid would u rather them shoot at stuff.. or watch characters have sex. There is your answer!

Very well put!!!! When you look at it that way, the answer is simple.
19/05/2008
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Smajs
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Smajs says:
Really depends whether or not is there purely for show (BMX XXX) or if it is part of the core gameplay (GTA IV relationships) As an avid R rating activist i say the videogame medium should be allowed to display anything Film/TV is allowed,whether that be sex,violence,drugs whatever,if a game needs to flash some tits to grab attention let it,i seem to recall the movie showgirls did the same thing,however nearly every game displaying sex/nudity is mediocre so i am guessing it's titilation factor = sales,as in almost every facet of life.I personally don't have interest in sex in gaming,this is one thing where real life beats games The restriction of sexually explicit games,or editing (GTA IV) seems to say to me that either the OFLC are repressed or sex is some strange taboo that would harm little Timmy if he saw it in a game,so decapitating,burning,injecting all fine, T&A BAD ?
19/05/2008
Krakenia
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Krakenia says:

Smajs said: Really depends whether or not is there purely for show (BMX XXX) or if it is part of the core gameplay (GTA IV relationships) As an avid R rating activist i say the videogame medium should be allowed to display anything Film/TV is allowed,whether that be sex,violence,drugs whatever,if a game needs to flash some tits to grab attention let it,i seem to recall the movie showgirls did the same thing,however nearly every game displaying sex/nudity is mediocre so i am guessing it's titilation factor = sales,as in almost every facet of life.I personally don't have interest in sex in gaming,this is one thing where real life beats games The restriction of sexually explicit games,or editing (GTA IV) seems to say to me that either the OFLC are repressed or sex is some strange taboo that would harm little Timmy if he saw it in a game,so decapitating,burning,injecting all fine, T&A BAD ?

I enjoyed every word of that comment...you make alot of sense there!
19/05/2008
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wutang01
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wutang01 says:
Yea, there was a Youtube video about a gamer arguing that the sex scenes in Mass Effect (the Xbox 360 exclusive) was appropriate for character development, related to story and that the actual sex footage was pretty minimal.

Of course, the other person arguing the other side was a female who was a strong feminist saying that it was wrong ... that women were being treated as 'sex objects'.

youtube.com/

Even though it's about Mass Effect, it's essentially relevant to all games with sex scenes in them.
19/05/2008
Brisbane
iaculch
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iaculch says:

wutang01 said: Yea, there was a Youtube video about a gamer arguing that the sex scenes in Mass Effect (the Xbox 360 exclusive) was appropriate for character development, related to story and that the actual sex footage was pretty minimal.

Of course, the other person arguing the other side was a female who was a strong feminist saying that it was wrong ... that women were being treated as 'sex objects'.

Let me find that video.



Oh yeh, I remember seeing that.
19/05/2008
Sydney
miller
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miller says:
Theres nothing wrong with whats in games, no need to censor them just give us an 18+ rating so kids can't buy them.
19/05/2008
wutang01
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wutang01 says:

miller said: Theres nothing wrong with whats in games, no need to censor them just give us an 18+ rating so kids can't buy them.



Totally agreed. Which is why we really want that R18+ rating on games.

All the over 18s (the majority) ... missing out on cool games, just because government is worried about all those under 18s (minority) getting the game.
19/05/2008
Brisbane
Smajs
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Smajs says:
@ Wutang lol that women arguing it was treating women like sex objects, where's she been?? women have been treated like than since time began,it aint new...god damn i am SICK of gaming & gamers not getting the respect our chosen media deserves,c'mon people like Kojima & Myamoto can/should be held in the same regard as an Oliver Stone or Spieldberg etc as artists, Their games are as artistically merited as any film...*Wanders off topic* Sorry lol.
19/05/2008
Krakenia
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Krakenia says:

Smajs said: @ Wutang lol that women arguing it was treating women like sex objects, where's she been?? women have been treated like than since time began,it aint new...god damn i am SICK of gaming & gamers not getting the respect our chosen media deserves,c'mon people like Kojima & Myamoto can/should be held in the same regard as an Oliver Stone or Spieldberg etc as artists, Their games are as artistically merited as any film...*Wanders off topic* Sorry lol.

Lol, dude dont apologise, keep the flame ignited..if it leads to a heated debate then fantastic...exactly what i want...debates on sensitive issues are good like that, its good to see some strong feeling in this, some real passion for our media.
19/05/2008
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wutang01
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wutang01 says:
@ Smajs. I know what you're talking about.
The feminist wasn't even a gamer. She's simply saying, "showing everyone a woman having sex ... very bad. Very bad, very naughty".

I bet you she hasn't even played the game, to understand the storyline and its relevance to the character development.

I don't know if I'm stabbing myself in the foot yet, because I haven't got to the 'censored parts' in GTA4 yet.
20/05/2008
Brisbane
Smajs
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Smajs says:
Ha ha Showing a women having sex is bad ???? o....k.... lol she sounds like she's repressed, i have seen the uncensored GTA IV & S.A "Hot coffee" (Which incidentally was for the females pleasure to any feminist objectionast) and they are no where near as explicit as a similarly rated (MA 15+) film.All i have witnessed in my gaming life is inequality of our medium,i bet the OFLC go about rating games differently to films,maybe one day society will wake up to the fact that the average gamers is mid twenties & the major titles are made & marketed towards that age brackets,not 10 yr old Timmy..just my 2 cents.
20/05/2008
Kazuma
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Kazuma says:
Right here's another Kazuma paragraph(lolz)

I am not going to deny games are getting violent and something also needs to be done about it but to say that violence isn't frowned upon isn't true. The only reason that violence games aren't winged about is because people blame hoodies who listen to rap the problem. Violence is more seen in films games and that's about it. Sex or sex related things are in lyrics, or music videos, films, games, and ya got porno websites which make people flip a lid. I dont feel nothing from violent games cause I use it as a strees release...I beat the crap out of a locust till I fell mellow and relaxed again. I am 13yrs old...I am not queer or religious but I am young and dont want my teenage memories to be "Remember that blonde who got nailed".
20/05/2008
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acid
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acid says:
Slowly but surely the gaming industry is coming of age, "simulated sex" will appear in R rated games just as it did in R rated movies.

Inter species sex (or at least the idea of it) adds to the mass effect "spice" if used correctly sex can only add to the immersion of interactive art.

Kazuma said:I am 13yrs old...I am not queer or religious but I am young and dont want my teenage memories to be "Remember that blonde who got nailed".


Hopefully you'll be a little more open minded by the time you are legally allowed to play the kind of games referred to in this thread
20/05/2008
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breno
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breno says:
This is a debate that has gotten alot stronger over the years (anyone remember Omikron: The Nomad Soul?) as developers have their hands on technology that pushes the envelope.
I don't believe that the gaming industry should miss out on what Hollywood can put into our eyes.
There is a segregated Adult Industry game development that develop virtual sex games that are quite detailed as you can imagine with the graphics rendering these days which is quite different to mainstream media BUT children and/or teens alike are still able to get their hands on this type of 'entertainment' if they wish; much as the same with movies and games that are rated out of their ages (which has been said to death )
Alot of it is up to parental control. I myself was allowed to play Resident Evil at the age of 12/13 and Doom at an even younger age but me stopped me from playing it after a while because she noticed i was talking about it alot and **** haha but thats an example of parents having power to do such a thing. The ratings are there for a REASON and should be adhered too within reasonal limits.
Meh, theres so many factors involved, just make an R rating for god sake because developers will keep on continuing to push the boundaries and giving them a new boundary to work on will solves all these issues.

My little brother who's 9 is coming over to check out my PS3 on Friday and do you think he'll be playing GTA? I dont think so lol
20/05/2008
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Krakenia
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Krakenia says:
Very good chatter going on here...thanks everyone for the lengthy inputs, keep the info reel spinning, i like seeing things from others perspective.
20/05/2008
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Astrolite
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Astrolite says:  
A kid playing a game is unlikely to try and remove someone's head, however they are likely to knock up the girl next door.
20/05/2008
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topher
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topher says:

Kazuma said: I am 13yrs old...I am not queer or religious but I am young and dont want my teenage memories to be "Remember that blonde who got nailed".



LOL, maybe you are a queer in denial. At that age your hormone's should be raging! I was flogging a few off everyday when i was 12 years old and used to look up porno pic's (damn 56k took ages) My (and many other male's teenage years) were all about checking out the "blonde who got nailed". Damn nearly 9 years on and im still looking at "blonde's get nailed"

Anyway if you read what you said again your basically saying you dont wanna remember people having sex in your teenage years, but you think its fine to see people get shot and bashed like in GTA. Ahhh how i miss being young and naive
20/05/2008
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