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Playstation 3 Hardware \ Graphics Obsession...?

rivalZone
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Ahh, what's with the graphics obsession among gamers? I mean I love the graphics too, adds to the immersion level a lot, but whenever a game seems to be mentioned barely any GAMEPLAY discussion occurs, it's all "graphics this" and "graphics that".

Games are about gameplay, graphics are cool and all, but it's a game, not a movie or picture.

/rant

\discuss
23/07/2008
PS3 > Food, Water, Sleep... Stratford, Vic
J-San
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Well, the recent craze of graphics arrived when the influx of blockheaded FPS-only players arrived on the gaming scene.


You'd have a seizure if you tried to count the amount of ****ty generic games that simply have graphics going for it.
23/07/2008
Melbourne, Victoria
Luke4123
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I think the only reason I'm obsessed with graphics is because PS3 has the potential to produce awesome graphics but yet some games have shocking graphics.
23/07/2008
Iη ƒ®ønt õf mÿ PS3 [ßrisbane]
rivalZone
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J-San said: Well, the recent craze of graphics arrived when the influx of blockheaded FPS-only players arrived on the gaming scene.

Icky...

FPS only gamers are almost as bad as the Wii gamers who claim they're "hardkore"


Luke4123 said: I think the only reason I'm obsessed with graphics is because PS3 has the potential to produce awesome graphics but yet some games have shocking graphics.

The potential for bigger game spaces, smarter AI, better physics ect. is superior.

Games like "Afrika" will fail, people will buy for the graphics but the GAMEPLAY will fail...
23/07/2008
PS3 > Food, Water, Sleep... Stratford, Vic
STFv1
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Agree that while graphics are not as important as core gameplay I think with tools that developers have now days there is no reason why gamers shouldnt expect to be wowed with impressive graphics. The fact is that great graphics are something that all gamers should be thrilled to see, not only because your new game looks pretty and can better immerse you in the game; but also becuase everytime a developer breaks the mould and does something amazing with a graphics engine you can bet that another developer has spotted what they have done and will either replicate the same features or take their game another whole step forward.
However what separates the mediocre games with good graphics from the great games is the vision that excellent graphics servie to further the gameplay rather than mask the shoddy gameplay. Take MGS4, a game that is graphically stunning yet can be commended equally for it's rich gameplay.
23/07/2008
NQ
s76
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i think you'll see a resurgence in GAMEPLAY over the next few years, TF2 is a perfect example, battlefield hero's is also looking promising. i think the strive to achieve realism in graphics has taken some polish away from the gameplay side of things, if it looks good and plays ok it'll be fine philosphy,
and kids these days are all like "OHH SHINEY!!!" buy/trade, old news, next game plz.
here's a good question: will the next SF:IV champ be a NKOTB or OLDSKOOL (a game that is really 100% gameplay orentated)
EDIT: agree that much of this is FPS related and why i have mentioned two fps games specifically. no i cant speel.
23/07/2008
Forster, NSW
xkazatom
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i prefer gameplay i mean i dont even own a good tv
i own your usual old school massive fat 100cm something tv hahahha
23/07/2008
Perth
zyxses
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I like to be "wowed" by the graphics, but unless the game/gameplay is good, it is only dressing.
23/07/2008
"A sure way to lose happiness is to want it at the expense of everything else."--Bette Davis
hammy360
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I have always said that game play is what i want and do not care to much and graphics. Still some times play pacman and the graphics are not that good but the game play is great
23/07/2008
Melbourne
stonecold
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I expect the graphics to match the gameplay. When technology improves so should the gameplay.
29/07/2008
perth
skua
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well to give you a straight answer.

take for example, haze, then take bad company. 2 FPS games, 1 really bad graphics, one great graphics
29/07/2008
Bad Company Owns!!!!! PSN_ID: lnknpk
raybert
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skua said: well to give you a straight answer.
take for example, haze, then take bad company. 2 FPS games, 1 really bad graphics, one great graphics



Please tell me that BFBC is the better graphics one
29/07/2008
Brisbane - PSN ID: Cardinal_RB - Add it!
bigtom_999
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rivalZone said: FPS only gamers are almost as bad as the Wii gamers who claim they're "hardkore"





lucky you said FPS-ONLY players...


i think that if your gonna play a game, why not have it look nice at the same time?


also, i much prefer a good physics engine. ragdoll is the funniest to watch and play with.


29/07/2008
Melbourne, VIC ~PSN ID: bigtom_999~
skua
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raybert said:


skua said: well to give you a straight answer.
take for example, haze, then take bad company. 2 FPS games, 1 really bad graphics, one great graphics


Please tell me that BFBC is the better graphics one

yes it is, haze isnt in HD
29/07/2008
Bad Company Owns!!!!! PSN_ID: lnknpk
topher
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bfbc didnt have the best graphics either........
29/07/2008
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Unhostile
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topher said: bfbc didnt have the best graphics either........



I agree.. by 50%

29/07/2008
Sydney, NSW, PSN ID: HostileForLife
Winnie
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Graphics impress instantly while things like gameplay can take a while. P:
29/07/2008
Melbourne
adbub
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Gameplay is always the most important thing, thats why the wii is kicking a55 at the moment
29/07/2008
Australia
longarms
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adbub said: Gameplay is always the most important thing, thats why the wii is kicking a55 at the moment

but 90% of the games on the Wii have horrible gameplay. I think it’s got more to do with its cheapness and the whole "family fun, buy it for your kids" appeal than incredible gaming experiences.
29/07/2008
Central Coast (NSW)
adbub
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I agree that there is a heap of crap out there for thw wii but people are 'buying the wii for their kids' due to the easier gameplay, therefore gameplay is more important than graphics
29/07/2008
Australia
Krakenia
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I'm obsessed with graphics..its next generation gaming, games should look good.
29/07/2008
<3 <3 <3 MGS4, Perth, W.A
WiiSUME1up
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Graphics make a game that special its next gen HD is among us now and take advantage, take advantage.
29/07/2008
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topher
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Krakenia said: I'm obsessed with graphics..its next generation gaming, games shoul look good.


I agree but i dont want to play a game with the best graphics in the world that plays like ass. Then again i don't want to play the best game ever made and have to sit through NES graphics for example. You need that good medium.

The lowest level of graphics i would accept in this generation of gaming with a kick ass story line would probably be FFX spec.. ONLY if it had a good story line

Better graphics make you feel like you are more 'part of the game' which makes for a better gaming experience in the end. True?
29/07/2008
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rivalZone
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Read the posts with people blabbering about games, see how many times graphics are mentioned over gameplay then you will see what I mean.
30/07/2008
PS3 > Food, Water, Sleep... Stratford, Vic
SpaceSteve
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Id rather a game that has a good story and plays well, than a crap game with great graphics.
30/07/2008
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