mateo1 says:  

holy ****! raybert! how did u get in the pic???

2 days ago Brisbane, QLD {PSN = aimar120}

Vinzor says:  

raybert said:

Vinzor said:

raybert said: Looks like vinzor in that picture.

looks more like you than me, noob.

and yeah, 2011 would equal NEW CONSOLES.
i remember reading that ps4 would be out 2012

LOL! is that all you can think of ? nice try though mate

i've seen what you look like. it does look more like you than me.

2 days ago [[PS3 Network ID - krazyvinny] [MSN - v_kakaroto[AT]hotmail.com]] -- Vinzor said: rofl no idea why i'm saying this but, i'd sooo turn gay for cloud :P -- BrisVegas

smashbro says:  

go ps3! but seriously no-one can predict the sales of a console or anything else there just guessing

3 days ago your house.

paulmc says:  

Rashy said:Attachment rate for one.

Attachment rate is a pretty crappy metric for just about everything. If you want to know about the profitability of selling games then just look at the total number of games sold. Dividing it by the number of consoles out there doesn't tell you anything particularly useful.

The only time attachment rate becomes useful for measuring profitability is if you are dealing with a console that is sold at a loss. If a console is sold at a loss then the manufacturer has to reach a certain attach rate before their business even starts to make any profit whatsoever.

Measuring (and therefore comparing) profitability is probably becoming increasingly hard. With console makers taking different paths (eg subsidizing or making a profit on the consoles themselves) and revenue streams other than box game sales (VC titles, downloadable content, subscriptions and movies) and additional expenses for some (red ring of death, redesigns) you probably can't do more than make an educated guess.

Nintendo's obviously doing very well. MS are probably doing ok, but the RROD has probably been expensive for them. For Sony maybe things are just starting to look positive.

3 days ago Sydney

raybert says:  

Vinzor said:

raybert said: Looks like vinzor in that picture.

looks more like you than me, noob.

and yeah, 2011 would equal NEW CONSOLES.
i remember reading that ps4 would be out 2012

LOL! is that all you can think of ? nice try though mate

3 days ago Brisbane

Vinzor says:  

raybert said: Looks like vinzor in that picture.

looks more like you than me, noob.

and yeah, 2011 would equal NEW CONSOLES.
i remember reading that ps4 would be out 2012

3 days ago [[PS3 Network ID - krazyvinny] [MSN - v_kakaroto[AT]hotmail.com]] -- Vinzor said: rofl no idea why i'm saying this but, i'd sooo turn gay for cloud :P -- BrisVegas

coffeeboy says:  

By then I will prob be playing the lastest Xbox or whatever, its a load of ****.

3 days ago

gdmatt says:  

hammy360 said: Load of total crap. By 2001 There will be a new xbox 720,ps4 And maybe a wii 2. As in 4 years there will be the next gen consoles before that 2011

I think you mean 2011 mate

And no, by 2011 the PS3 will still be in buisness, so will the 360 and maybe even the Wii.

raybert said: Looks like vinzor in that picture.

Roflmao, omg so funny, hahahahaha... whew...

4 days ago MyPS3, MyPSP and MyDS

raybert says:  

Looks like vinzor in that picture.

4 days ago Brisbane

hammy360 says:  

Load of total crap. By 2001 There will be a new xbox 720,ps4 And maybe a wii 2. As in 4 years there will be the next gen consoles before that 2011

4 days ago Melbourne

Rashy says:  

longarms said: yeh i know, well unless we have some sort of time machine .

This would actually be pretty low on my list if I had a time machine.

I would however get myself one of those hoverboards from Back to the Future 2 & 3 though!

4 days ago Sydney

longarms says:  

yeh i know, well unless we have some sort of time machine .

4 days ago Central Coast (NSW)

Rashy says:  

longarms said: but thats the thing the attach rate is horible for the wii. As it is amined at the casual market, they are quite happy to stick with only wii sports and mario party 8

Hence my use of the word "theoretically". The whole news item is speculation.

4 days ago Sydney

longarms says:  

but thats the thing the attach rate is horible for the wii. As it is amined at the casual market, they are quite happy to stick with only wii sports and mario party 8

4 days ago Central Coast (NSW)

Rashy says:  

I'm pressuming that the graph is console sales.

So many different aspects go into the "success" of a console, especially from a business standpoint rather than simply the number of units sold.

Attachment rate for one. The number of games an individual buys to go with their console. This particularly affects 360 and PS3 as this is where they're making their money.

So regardless of which has the higher console sales, the one with the higher attachment rate is more profitable.

Wii on the other hand are making a profit on their console sales to start with so what looks like a small difference on the graph would theoretically end up being a huge difference in dollars. Then they're making money on game sales to boot!

Who would have thought that after the Gamecube?

4 days ago Sydney

Guyver says:  

The Wii and PS3 are different machines aimed at different markets, it will interesting to see how this pans out, by 2011 will game developers be fully utilizing the PS3 cell processing and the Wii's Motion sensing controls?

4 days ago Melbourne, Victoria PSN: Guyv3R_3

Gaetano says:  

iddqd said: ***BREAKING NEWS***




Analysts predict sun will come up tomorrow! xD

They might be wrong *gasp*

4 days ago Melbourne

iddqd says:  

***BREAKING NEWS***




Analysts predict sun will come up tomorrow! xD

4 days ago Knee deep in the dead...

antman1011 says:  

slow and steady for the ps3, slow and steady

But then

We shooot up the graph

4 days ago Melbourne, Victoria

Gaetano says:  

gaetano-mymedia.blogspot.com/

What I think.

4 days ago Melbourne

paulmc says:  

Where does the graph come from?
Is there any justification given for their prediction of a sudden and sustained increase in the PS3's gradient at the beginning of 2008?

I think it's possible that Sony will do well but at the moment there are an awful lot of uncertainties:
-Will Blu-ray tank in the marketplace?
-Will developers get a solid grip with the PS3 architecture, especially in respect to cross-platform games?
-Will they be able to grow their market past the traditional gamer market (which has largely been sewn up by the 360/Wii in Western markets at least)?

The PS3 still has plenty of hurdles to overcome. Personally I'd like to see Sony do well because they have at least tried to make something a bit special but I'm finding it difficult to believe that they are going to turn things around as sharply as that graph suggests.

4 days ago Sydney

simond75 says:  

Sounds like the ideal outcome, but I can't but any faith in a "forecast". Predicting console sales isn't like predicting the weather, where we can see what's floating in.

Can that Xbox360 line get any steadier!

4 days ago Brisbane

liam_w says:  

I like the way those lines go.

4 days ago Benalla, Victoria

raybert says:  

Hmmm good to hear, I new wii was wee.

4 days ago Brisbane