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chucky110
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iddqd said: I honestly couldn't give a sideways **** about Heath Ledger or any other celebrity. It depresses me more than anything that so many people adore actors. Suicide happens. 1.7% of all deaths in Australia are suicides. And I find it very hard to believe his death was an accident... same with the Australian guy who died in Iraq, "cleaning" his pistol. What I want to say to the people who find his death distressing, is get a life. People die all the time and no one cares, no one even knows. When a family member or friend or someone you know dies, this sort of reaction is understandable, but the media has you all chasing your tails, thinking that this Heath Ledger's death has any relevance to your lives what so ever. People are making money off of this "tragic" event, and you guys are blindly handing it over. That right there is sadder than any actors death is.

If you don't like what I just said, shoot me.

so if you died no one would care, i know i wouldn't, how are we handing money over
21 hours ago
Melbourne, Victoria
callan5
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Damn, someone has just died *famous or non famous* and everyone is argueing with eachother, there is a frozen thread on this forum, i think a few of you should go in there and chill out abit.
21 hours ago
Outside Perth, WA, Living Country Bumpkin Style
iddqd
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As I said in my post... it's natural to have empathy, and sympathy for your loved ones, but it's an absolute contradiction to waste your lives caring about actors who you will never know... Chucky, we're handing over money by talking about it, how's that? People hear about it by people like us talking about it... they switch on their TV's and they watch it. The media, like always, blows everything out of proportion, and uses emotional blackmail to suck you into watching. "Events" like this are a gold mine to them. And everything you see on TV is designed to suck you in, fix your attention so hard that you watch ads without even noticing... the ads fund the media, the media spreads the propaganda... it's called consumerism, and clever people high up in media companies are laughing their asses off at the fact that they're able to exploit millions of poor fools into giving them buckets of cash and asking for nothing in return. That answer your question? Your mere thinking about it is making them money.
20 hours ago
Knee deep in the dead...
longarms
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You’re a whole sea of empathy and compassion for your fellow man aren’t you Id.
20 hours ago
Central Coast (NSW)
chucky110
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oh we are handing over money by talking, i didn't realise talking about it can give them money, if you don't like us talking about it then PO and don't reply in this thread, easy as that
20 hours ago
Melbourne, Victoria
J3PP0_15
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He cares more about some big rich guy making money, than Australia's best actor dying. What a nice guy!
20 hours ago
Queenstown, TASMANIA
iddqd
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chucky110 said: oh we are handing over money by talking, i didn't realise talking about it can give them money, if you don't like us talking about it then PO and don't reply in this thread, easy as that

Man, I'm just saying is all xD

Don't watch TV. Don't think about watching TV. Think your own thoughts. That's about the best advice anyone could ever give you.
20 hours ago
Knee deep in the dead...
needps3
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well, ill say this. i wasn't going to burst out in tears because of heath ledger's death (not saying hes not special, just well, he isnt like family or anything of mine) but that doesn't stop me from just being stunned/sorry for his family.
20 hours ago
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J3PP0_15
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iddqd said:
Man, I'm just saying is all xD
Don't watch TV. Don't think about watching TV. Think your own thoughts. That's about the best advice anyone could ever give you.



Man, Im NEVER watchin TV ever again!! Im not even gonna think about it!

Dumba**!!
20 hours ago
Queenstown, TASMANIA
iddqd
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Rofl, we'll see.
20 hours ago
Knee deep in the dead...
GTADude
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Damn this is shocking I've never seen any of his movies or anything, but its still a great loss to his family and friends, aswell as the film industry
20 hours ago
This is sickening! You all sound like chapters from a self help booklet!!! - FFVI
IAMColonel
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Never seen his movies? .. go see Two Hands asap!

Id, i get your point (only read a couple of your posts), but seriously... that talk is for the imdb trolls. Sure people die, but sometimes there's certain people that do affect millions, and i guess it's just fact that in modern life - we as a world, give a bigger **** about them.

Sure there's actors that are admired for seemingly no good reason, but there is also actors that are admired for their true, honest and genuine hard work to entertain and satisfy millions and millions of people. I'm sure everyone has movies that they just admire, even if it is just one movie, one movie that went for 2 hours, there's still 15 or 20 or 50 people that made that movie the way it was, without a leading actor it would just be so much different. That's why people will admire someone who just 'acts'.

Hope that made some sense. Hopefully Heath didn't commit suicide because he was one fine actor with the potential to become an Australian icon. RIP.
16 hours ago
Melbourne (otherwise known as MyPSP)
iddqd
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It made a lot of sense, but you, like everyone else, place far too much importance on actors... what about directors? Stanley Kubrick for example? do you think it was Jack Nicholson who made The Shining a classic film? ... he played a major part in making it a classic, not many actors could have pulled it off, but it was Kubrick who it all ultimately came down to... and even then it was based off of a Stephen King novel, with hundreds of other people involved... So maybe you need to put a little bit more thought in to what makes movies such effective pieces of art. Actors are just one small factor, and ultimately they're just being told what to do. The emphasis gets put on them, because they're obviously the focal point, but really... how come actors are considered "better" more important people because of that?
16 hours ago
Knee deep in the dead...
IAMColonel
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They're the ones we see, therefore they get paid more, thus the media has to know everything about their lives, thus we know them, thus they are considered "better" or more important. (where'd the better quote come from?? )

Only explaination i can put forward. I'm sure a lot of directors enjoy not being chased around by dicks with cameras anyway. I totally agree though, but hey, there's nothing we can do about it.
15 hours ago
Melbourne (otherwise known as MyPSP)
adbub
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They were saying on the news today that heath had a big crack problem ever since he starred in Brokeback Mountain.
11 hours ago
Australia
ectozar
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iddqd said: It made a lot of sense, but you, like everyone else, place far too much importance on actors... what about directors? Stanley Kubrick for example? do you think it was Jack Nicholson who made The Shining a classic film? ... he played a major part in making it a classic, not many actors could have pulled it off, but it was Kubrick who it all ultimately came down to... and even then it was based off of a Stephen King novel, with hundreds of other people involved... So maybe you need to put a little bit more thought in to what makes movies such effective pieces of art. Actors are just one small factor, and ultimately they're just being told what to do.


What point are you trying to make here? Because When Kubrick died there was just as much attention put on his passing as with Heath Ledgers. But you we're probably too young to remember that.
You think if Spielburg, Scorsese, Lucas, Tarentino etc died there wouldnt be any coverage? No, they would get just as much recognition.


Obviously the reason Heath is getting more attention is because on top of being a decent actor, he was an Australian.

And the reason people give a **** about actors? As has been mentioned, actor's can touch people, inspire people and help them in their every day life. It might sound shallow but it happens and you need to get your head around that.
11 hours ago
Sydney
Cherrona
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warning
Well, this thread has been ruined now.
People are entitled to their own opinions, but most people show some decency and hold back a bit when it's something like this.
If things continue like this, then I will lock this thread, and someone will get into trouble.
Regardless of whether or not the deceased is/was an actor or an average person that doesn't change the fact that most people here have compassion. And most people here also show some kind of respect when posting.
10 hours ago
Silent Hill -The fear of blood tends to create fear for the flesh
Lil_Fil06
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I'm not trying to be an admin or rage up or anything, I have no authority at all but I keep seeing un-gaming related threads coming around.

This is a Playstation 3 Gaming site, lets keep it that way

MKL23 that is true below, we just have to much of them!
9 hours ago
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MKL23
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Though Lil_Fil06 it is inice to see somethin like the random story thread. It is nice to see that stuff. But i guess we could of read the news because this 4 pages of RIP
9 hours ago
Perth,W.A
simond75
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I must admit I wasn't a big Fan of Heath. After watching his infamous Sunrise interview last year he left me with an impression of total arrogance. Maybe it was nerves or not knowing how to deal with the media, who knows. Though by this stage in life one knows the difference between respect and dis-respect.

None the less, he was a great actor,and I was saddened to hear the news. Especially with a little girl in the picture. I never realised he was so young, 4 years younger than me.
9 hours ago
Brisbane
crazynites
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iddqd said: I honestly couldn't give a sideways **** about Heath Ledger or any other celebrity. It depresses me more than anything that so many people adore actors. Suicide happens. 1.7% of all deaths in Australia are suicides. And I find it very hard to believe his death was an accident... same with the Australian guy who died in Iraq, "cleaning" his pistol. What I want to say to the people who find his death distressing, is get a life. People die all the time and no one cares, no one even knows. When a family member or friend or someone you know dies, this sort of reaction is understandable, but the media has you all chasing your tails, thinking that this Heath Ledger's death has any relevance to your lives what so ever. People are making money off of this "tragic" event, and you guys are blindly handing it over. That right there is sadder than any actors death is.
If you don't like what I just said, shoot me.

you are a major tool, everything you say is negative
8 hours ago
Melbourne, Victoria
Cherrona
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Ok, I'm starting to get sick of all this.
I'm locking this thread because of all the negativity and off topic posts. I'll start a new thread for people to pay respect, but if anything happens in that, then I will BAN people.

Lil Fil, indeed you don't have any authority. And this may be a PS3 site, but there is still a SOCIAL group for discussions. Which means people can discuss non PS3 related topics.

Iddqd, don't post if you're just going to start trouble. Quite frankly I'm getting sick of your attitude.

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