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vryan15
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do you think they could ever make the graphics better than the ps3 and make a ps4 because i read in the playstation magazine that the ps4 could be out by 2016 i dont no if that is true but it would be koool so get saving if u want one lol
01/08/2008
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stax28
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vryan15 said: do you think they could ever make the graphics better than the ps3 and make a ps4 because i read in the playstation magazine that the ps4 could be out by 2016 i dont no if that is true but it would be koool so get saving if u want one lol

as long as it comes out in 2016... Graphics can always get better...
01/08/2008
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J-San
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vryan15 said: do you think they could ever make the graphics better than the ps3 and make a ps4 because i read in the playstation magazine that the ps4 could be out by 2016 i dont no if that is true but it would be koool so get saving if u want one lol



The problem isn't that we don't have technology that can make insane graphics, the problem is that technology is expensive to produce / mass market. As technology progresses, hardware gets cheaper


They can already create games that have graphics identical to CG clips, it's just..

A. How much would it cost to produce? (MGS4-GTA4 Cost over 100 million to develope)

B. No console can it, how many PC's would be able to run it? It's economically illogical.
01/08/2008
Melbourne, Victoria
stax28
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J-San said:

vryan15 said: do you think they could ever make the graphics better than the ps3 and make a ps4 because i read in the playstation magazine that the ps4 could be out by 2016 i dont no if that is true but it would be koool so get saving if u want one lol



The problem isn't that we don't have technology that can make insane graphics, the problem is that technology is expensive to produce / mass market. As technology progresses, hardware gets cheaper

They can already create games that have graphics identical to CG clips, it's just..

A. How much would it cost to produce? (MGS4-GTA4 Cost over 100 million to develope)

B. No console can it, how many PC's would be able to run it? It's economically illogical.

true... but still.. IMAGINE what the graphics would be like in around 20 yrs... IT HAS come a long way since space invaders and pacman, not to mention PONG...
01/08/2008
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fd3s
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2016p would be great but ps3 can barely handle 1080p gaming.....

probably need 4 times the power to handle 2016p....

and then all tvs would need another upgrade.....

i would think this would happen for awhile
01/08/2008
Melbourne
SpaceSteve
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fd3s said: 2016p would be great but ps3 can barely handle 1080p gaming.....
probably need 4 times the power to handle 2016p....
and then all tvs would need another upgrade.....
i would think this would happen for awhile

Ithink 2016 refers to a year, not a tv resolution.
01/08/2008
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Freya
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in 2016,I think they would have virtual reality gaming by then...
01/08/2008
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firzen
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i think a PS4 will come out in 2017. Or at least shown off at that time at E3.
01/08/2008
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S0NY
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Huh? For your information, PS3 was launched 6 years after PS2 was released, so why the hell would PS4 launch 11 years after PS3????? ANSWER THAT QUESTION???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01/08/2008
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R1V3N
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because the ps2 wasnt expandable like the ps3(hdd)
and becuaes devs are taking so long to harness the power of the cell , ps3 wont be living up to its potential for quite a few years i think....
01/08/2008
Douglas
S0NY
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Lol, nice and informative answer.

/sarcasm

EDIT: Fat PS2 did have an HDD.
01/08/2008
Melbourne, VIC - I currently own 117 Japanese (Region 2) SONY PLAYSTATION 3 BD games and 16 Australian (Region 4) SONY PLAYSTATION 3 BD games...TOTAL = 133
SpaceSteve
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S0NY said: Huh? For your information, PS3 was launched 6 years after PS2 was released, so why the hell would PS4 launch 11 years after PS3????? ANSWER THAT QUESTION???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sony themselves have come out and said a number of times that they exxpect this consoles life to be much longer than its predessesor.
01/08/2008
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S0NY
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They said, 10 years again, irrc.
01/08/2008
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R1V3N
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you asked why ,you didnt request a detailed decription next time i write an answer ill be sure to include alot of information ppl dont really want to read rather then being to the point..
01/08/2008
Douglas
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Fat PS2 did have an HDD and PS2 was also tricky to program for.
01/08/2008
Melbourne, VIC - I currently own 117 Japanese (Region 2) SONY PLAYSTATION 3 BD games and 16 Australian (Region 4) SONY PLAYSTATION 3 BD games...TOTAL = 133
Decklus
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Its inevitable that the next generation of playstation will be more powerful than the current generation. Look at evolution of ps1>ps2>ps3 each generation has brought a new generation of storage medium & dramatic increases in processing & rendering power.

When you also consider that the gpu of the ps3 is nearly 3 years old already & the current gpu chipsets from nvidia are significantly faster then what sony could buy back then. If they were to make a ps3 with whats available now the ps3 would have zero problems with full 1080p rendering. Thus using the parts available to them in 2010-?, the next generation will be probably 5x faster than current playstation & be capable of rendering resolutions greater than 1080p
01/08/2008
Melbourne, Victoria
R1V3N
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no , u could add a hdd , didnt come with one , not in oz n e way ,
01/08/2008
Douglas
ozchap
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R1V3N said: because the ps2 wasnt expandable like the ps3(hdd)
and becuaes devs are taking so long to harness the power of the cell , ps3 wont be living up to its potential for quite a few years i think....



also because at launch, the ps3 was only "10% functional", and there was all that talk about how good it was GONNA be, a couple years down the line......so it's been a slow moving project and i cant see them bailing on it that quickly at all. well, thats what he said really, so it was actually an informative response dude, why the sarcasm?

Maybe once the ps3 has reached full capacity (ie, we get HOME, playTV into all regions) then you could call that your "release date" starting point which you're using in your analogy....

so i agree with everyone else here, 2016-17, at least
01/08/2008
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SpaceSteve
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S0NY said: Fat PS2 did have an HDD and PS2 was also tricky to program for.

Yes it did. It was also held back by a number of things that the xbox had and the ps2 didnt. Full 5.1, internet conectivity, hard drive were all things the xbox could do out of its box. I think that if sony was just competing with nintendoh, we all would still be playinging ps2 games. The release of the 360 accelerated the prosess making sony release the ps3 far earlier than they probaly expected, and thats why i believe, that sony are still struggling with things like home and trophy's
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Decklus
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I think we will get new generation about 2011-12. Sony keeps talking about its 10 year plan for ps3. I think this is similar to their plan with ps2, support as major connsole for 5-6 years then wind out it life cycle enjoying the large amounts of software sales the huge installed base allows & the ability to sell cheap subsidised hardware. But definitely with a replacement planned by 2012 ( which will be using 2010's gpu technology)
01/08/2008
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SpaceSteve
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Decklus said: I think we will get new generation about 2011-12. Sony keeps talking about its 10 year plan for ps3. I think this is similar to their plan with ps2, support as major connsole for 5-6 years then wind out it life cycle enjoying the large amounts of software sales the huge installed base allows & the ability to sell cheap subsidised hardware. But definitely with a replacement planned by 2012 ( which will be using 2010's gpu technology)



Your all forgetting that the life of the ps2 ISNT finished. Its sill the biggest selling console in the world. It still moves more titles than any other console.
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Decklus
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nope not forgetting ps2 .. its the 10 yr model the ps3 is following.. ps2 launched in 2000 .. successor released 6 years later is now in 8th year of its 10year life cycle, at this point of the life cycle its all gravy for sony ... hardware costs them almost nothing & they are still make liscencing fees from the thousands of ps2 titles availble ( & still being made) & still selling very well.
01/08/2008
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S0NY
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Stevie! PS2's life will end in 2010. My prediction.
01/08/2008
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SpaceSteve
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S0NY said: Stevie! PS2's life will end in 2010. My prediction.

Yeah maybe. If sony continue to make megabucks on the ps2, i think they could well support past that date.
01/08/2008
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Gaetano
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S0NY said: Stevie! PS2's life will end in 2010. My prediction.



Don't be surprised if it goes well into next decade. They're almost selling as good now as they were 2 years ago.
01/08/2008
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