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Australian Internet Filtering Proceeding - We Have Some Issues

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By Ben Salter

The Australia Federal Government last night announced (via news.com.au) that it will go ahead with its controversial Internet filtering scheme. They have concluded from the trial, which we’ve heard little about, that the filter works "with 100 per cent accuracy and negligible impact on internet speed". However, those heavily involved with the Internet world beg to differ, suggesting it will block a range of legitimate sites, and slow down our already behind the western world Internet speeds.

If you missed out on all the fuss a couple of months back, the filter will require all ISPs to block content that is refused classification (RC) when legislation is passed next year. Communications Minister Stephen Conroy says RC content includes "child sex abuse content, bestiality, sexual violence and the detailed instruction of crime and drug use". I think I speak for all of us when I say we’re more than happy for such content to be made unavailable to Australians. Some of it’s flat out disturbing, and it’s not exactly comforting knowing someone can google tips on bomb making. If it stopped there we’d have no problem with it, but unfortunately completely legit sites are likely to get caught in the firing line.

Back in March a list of 1000 blacklisted sites, to be used in the trial, was leaked to the public. The list included perfectly innocent YouTube videos, Wikipedia entries, religious sites, poker games, and even a tourist and dentist website. In other words the censor did not work, and blocked sites it should not have.

There was also the issue of legal adult sites being blacklisted. While they may not appeal to everyone, they are perfectly legal. Referring to everything that was blocked, Mr Conroy said "It is important that all Australians, particularly young children, are protected from this material." In a way this takes us back to the R18+ videogames rating debacle. While he was referring to the illegal content mentioned earlier, does the government care if it means we lose legal content that is designed for adults only? While it won’t block all legal porn and online poker sites, is it fair that in a free country the government is able to dictate which lawful sites we can and cannot visit just because they’re rushing into a filtering scheme that does not work flawlessly, no matter what they claim? It’s exactly the same with an adults only rating for videogames, surely it’s the parents job to protect their children from such horrid content, they could opt in! Kevin Rudd did propose that there would be a two-tier system that would include opting in for the second level; with the announcement yesterday we didn’t hear anything about that. Does it still exist?

Maybe it’s a little harsh to use the term “dictate” in there, but with mandatory Internet filtering expect the comparisons to come. Australia will be placed alongside 15 other Western democratic nations that have, or will have, ISP filters. They include Denmark, Belgium, Finland, Italy, Germany and The Netherlands, but with one key difference; they are all voluntary. That’s what we want! If parents want to protect their children from absolutely everything they can opt in. Meanwhile the rest of us don’t have to worry about perfectly legitimate sites, including family friendly ones, being caught up in this mess.

The biggest problem we have is who exactly makes this blacklist? The ACMA did it last time, and clearly not very well. All we know currently is that the list will be created and maintained by an “independent body.” Who is that, exactly? Knowing a majority of the Internet community wouldn’t take kindly to the announcement a public discussion paper has been released. What it actually achieves is another story, but at least they are trying to make it look like we have a say. For the record, we say no, at least until it works 100% flawlessly, which includes losing absolutely no speed. If that can’t happen, don’t make it mandatory.

"Given the pilot's modest goals, it was designed from the beginning to pass," said EFA spokesman Colin Jacobs, against the filtering system. With a limited trial list, and only a handful of Australians participating, the EFA have argued that the trial was designed to pass, but will collapse when it is implemented for everyone. The “pass” diagnosis seems to have ignored the fact that the filter blocked a vast range of sites that should have remained available. Putting that aside, it didn’t impact too much on speed. However, that’s more than likely going to change outside of the trial containment, when it tackles the entire Internet with a much larger blacklist.

Is the government rushing in to this? Or should we even have it at all?

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Kerrby
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I remember hearing comments from people using the trial that said it's a load of crap.

It doesn't block child porn sites but it blocked official government sites.

Say good bye to the super slow speeds that we have at the moment, it's only going to get slower.
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Ramzez
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I'm past caring any more to be perfectly honest. If the whole point of this is to block child porn then it is doomed to fail. Millions of files are shared every day around the world, how can the Government possibly think they can know the content of any of them? As with everything else in this Nanny State, it seems that the vast majority have to be inconvenienced in order to appear to be doing "the right" thing by trying to deter the few (speed humps come to mind ).
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chuz
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This is scary ****. I know we're a long shot from having anywhere near the level of restriction that China's communist government imposes, but this is a serious infringement on our rights. It sets a potentially significant precedent that I wouldn't expect our govt to exploit, but the possibility is there. In China, the masses are kept at peace through online filtering and propaganda- it sounds bizarre in this day and age, but the fact is that most Chinese people have never heard of the 1989 protests in Tienanmen Square due to selective media publishing and an incredibly strict internet filter. They do not recognise what has become one of the most famous photographs in recent history, because it effectively does not exist in China:


I know I'm getting a bit heavy for such a basic and seemingly reasonable internet filter, but I think it's worth highlighting the potential these things have in the wrong hands.

It's interesting...
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Vinzor
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Don't touch/change my ****. That is all.
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Eedgy1
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i like our slow speeds. I mean slow and steady wins the race right??

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right????!??
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Matrix6
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It's becoming more apparent that the government is slowly making unreasonable choices for us where it seems like we can't make the right decisions or are not mature enough to make them.

The internet filtering will extend to other sites they deem unsafe or not legal. ie. torrent sites may also be blocked in the near future.
What's the bet this may also affect the PlayStation store?? (somehow)
Aeschylus
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Someone mentioned a list of countries with similar schemes.

China, North Korea, Burma.

Enough Said.

Aussie internet sucks, and it's only going to get worse, whats next... porn sites... torrents... shopping sites... facebook... and so forth.

Even in china they have made gaming illegal, I watched this news piece of gamers sent to military boot camps to stop there addiction and playing the games (due to them being addicted I guess) which i think is frikken extreme.

So whats next... could MyPs3.com.au be illegal because it opens a forum for gaming discussion? Mr Rudds lost my vote with this BS.
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chuz
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Aeschylus said: Mr Rudds lost my vote with this BS.


He never had mine. How about we see that superduper high speed nationwide internet connection he promised, rather than measures to further restrict our online resources
IAMColonel
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He promised more and we're getting less.

What a douche.
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internet filtering. as long as I can download an mp3 here and there I really dont care for adult xxx sites being blocked.

What I do want is better infrastructure for internet speeds at a lower price. WHEN?

Though I do agree that it does encroach upon our right to be able to choose, think for ourselves. This is someone else's opinion on whats right or wrong over ours. But like i said when it comes to illegal adult xxx sites, spam sites do I really care thats being blocked. Its about how they are willing to go and will it actually do any good.
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Our government sucks.
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Aeschylus said: Someone mentioned a list of countries with similar schemes.
China, North Korea, Burma.
Enough Said.
Aussie internet sucks, and it's only going to get worse, whats next... porn sites... torrents... shopping sites... facebook... and so forth.
Even in china they have made gaming illegal, I watched this news piece of gamers sent to military boot camps to stop there addiction and playing the games (due to them being addicted I guess) which i think is frikken extreme.
So whats next... could MyPs3.com.au be illegal because it opens a forum for gaming discussion? Mr Rudds lost my vote with this BS.



Im pretty sure they said the filter will actually block torrents.

I think its only fair that facebook/myspace/msn etc should be banned.

If they really wanna stop child predators ban them as well:p
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mickyt888 said:

Aeschylus said: Someone mentioned a list of countries with similar schemes.
China, North Korea, Burma.
Enough Said.
Aussie internet sucks, and it's only going to get worse, whats next... porn sites... torrents... shopping sites... facebook... and so forth.
Even in china they have made gaming illegal, I watched this news piece of gamers sent to military boot camps to stop there addiction and playing the games (due to them being addicted I guess) which i think is frikken extreme.
So whats next... could MyPs3.com.au be illegal because it opens a forum for gaming discussion? Mr Rudds lost my vote with this BS.


Im pretty sure they said the filter will actually block torrents.
I think its only fair that facebook/myspace/msn etc should be banned.
If they really wanna stop child predators ban them as well:p


Let's just ban computers flat out.
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rockinrors
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I'll just download the entire internets onto my floppy disk, just in case.
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