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topher
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SiR409 said:
And no, they weren't on the earth when there was no earth.. Not sure what ya mean bro. As the Bible says, earth has been around for about 8000 years.


is there any documentation of dinosaurs in the bible? How did these bones appear on the earth if the earth is only 8000 years old is what i am trying to say
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acefreemok
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SiR409 said: Yeah man, thats what Im saying.. it/they need to have been buried.. People that dont get buried, dont leave bones on the ground after 5000 years. So you dont think they buried dinosaurs when they died, do you? They all got buried in the flood =)

And no, they weren't on the earth when there was no earth.. Not sure what ya mean bro. As the Bible says, earth has been around for about 8000 years.



Anyone regardless of whether they believe in God, Allah or The Flying Spaghetti Monster who believes that the Earth is only 8000 years old is an complete and utter idiot.
There is little debate, even amongst theologians that the universe is billions of years old. You can believe in what you want to believe, but don't ignore what is clearly scientific fact because you are so incapable of critical thought that you follow the belief of some fundamentalist extremist...
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SiR409
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Well, comes back to reading between the lines. I'm convinced than before sin entered the world, Dinosaurs walked the Earth just like any other animals, alongside humans. There's nothing saying Dinosaurs were wiped out, its just very likely that the majority of them were wiped out in the flood, as they would have a lot harder time living and reproducing than most other animals. I think that goes on to suggest that it could be a reason why they have even recently (last 20 years) found dinosaur corpses (nessy anyone?).

They arent necessarily documented in the Bible, but then, there's a lot that isn't.. It's such a small book considering it spans so many years. There's a lot in there to learn by reading around what's actually stated.
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goks
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can science expain about The Lost Tomb of Jesus
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SpaceSteve
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The Flying Spaghetti Monster rofl
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Dannnn
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im not shure witch side to choose but if there is a god you would think that by now he would give out some other sign by now
i mean all the other ones were good e.g Davd Golliath, Noah, Moses
but people would stop believeing

nothing serious im just saying if there still is a god he would tell us somehow
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SiR409 said: as they would have a lot harder time living and reproducing than most other animals.



Imagine dino sex???? NO DONT.... PLEASE DONT!!!!!
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SiR409
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acefreemok said: You can believe in what you want to believe, but don't ignore what is clearly scientific fact because you are so incapable of critical thought that you follow the belief of some fundamentalist extremist...



lol, that's goin a bit far mate. 'Scientific proof' can be thrown all around the joint mate. If every scientist out there believed the same thing, that still wouldn't make it an undeniable definate. There are theories, there are concepts. There's no 'proof' of this. There's no absolute.
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SpaceSteve
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Dinosaurs layed eggs. They were reptiles(most of them).
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topher
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SiR409 said: Well, comes back to reading between the lines. I'm convinced than before sin entered the world, Dinosaurs walked the Earth just like any other animals, alongside humans. There's nothing saying Dinosaurs were wiped out, its just very likely that the majority of them were wiped out in the flood, as they would have a lot harder time living and reproducing than most other animals. I think that goes on to suggest that it could be a reason why they have even recently (last 20 years) found dinosaur corpses (nessy anyone?).

They arent necessarily documented in the Bible, but then, there's a lot that isn't.. It's such a small book considering it spans so many years. There's a lot in there to learn by reading around what's actually stated.


How do you explaing carbon dating shoiwng that the dinosaurs ARE in fact millions of years old? and not only thousands of years old?
i know it is only wiki.. but have a read of this en.wikipedia.org/ tells you how science believes the age of the world

goks said: can science expain about The Lost Tomb of Jesus


sure it can, jesus was a real person, and was killed. he was buried in a tomb. they find it. TA-DAH
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Dannnn
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gos is lost in this thread lol
no ones talking about him again
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goks
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Noah Ark was find on Mount Ararat in Turkey
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Auleluia Auleluia Ale Ale --- Luia, Lord we lift your name, with and full grace. Auleluia Auleluia Auleluia Auleluia Auleluia God is speaking if we listening we will recieve the holy spirit.
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SiR409
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Carbon dating is another theory. It's flawed. It's not definate. Like I said, so many 'facts' are still based on theory. They are accepted as fact because there is no other logical explanation (failing that of God's supernatural explanation).
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blu3man
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Gendo Ikari implanted his god into his hand for safekeeping.... then he stuck it.... welll ..... its kind of grose and some people may say weird and possibly illegal.... but everyone in the world died because a bunch of 14 year olds were depressed
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topher
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SiR409 said: Carbon dating is another theory. It's flawed. It's not definate. Like I said, so many 'facts' are still based on theory. They are accepted as fact because there is no other logical explanation (failing that of God's supernatural explanation).


i agree that is not 100% but it gives ALOT ebtter indicitaion than (no offence) just speculation that has been passed down through the ages and written in a book.

I put this to you again, even if carbon dating is not 100% it still puts the dinosaurs on this planet millions of years before it was supposedly created. If we cant move on from the dinosaur example how about minerals and rocks?
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raybert
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How come when I went to church and prayed, God spoke back to me, shows that Religion is True.
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I think both ideas can push the opposite to a point of no answer.

I personally don't know enough about the newest 'proof' or 'technologies' that indicate how old things are. I know there's a great Creationist series that I linked earlier that will answer many of the questions that I cannot. Unfortunately I'm a gamer, not a scientist =)
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topher
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raybert said: How come when I went to church and prayed, God spoke back to me, shows that Religion is True.


It was all a figment of your imagination. How come when i just closed my eyes jennifer hawkins appeared naked on my bed?
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SiR409
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raybert said: How come when I went to church and prayed, God spoke back to me, shows that Religion is True.



That's right mate. To many christians, they do in their own lives develop a solid, sometimes physical proof that stems from their faith.. but that's not enough to convince other people who haven't shared those experiences.
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raybert said: How come when I went to church and prayed, God spoke back to me, shows that Religion is True.



Schizophrenics have people talking to them all the time.
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topher
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If you believe in something so much you will find it to be true. If i lie to my friends about a story and keep repeating that story for many years to come, in the end i will beleive that story to be true. That is the case in god speaking to you
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goks
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so most of you Atheism ,philosophers , or theologians??
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S0NY
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THE MEANING OF LIFE: Is God really real? Or is there some doubt?
Or perhaps we're just one of God's major jokes?

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